the challenge: part 9 - immigration
congress failed to end debate today on the immigration reform bill this morning. since it’s been a while since i gave george something to call me a liberal fool over, here’s a little sumpin sumpin. hell, he may even agree with it.
Scott O says:
so what was this bill saying
Scott O says:
legalize whois here already to solve our problem?
Scott O says:
so that way it can spread the word, come over here cuz you’ll be legalized anyway?
Zane B says:
think that may have been part of it
Scott O says:
mabye that was the other issue
Scott O says:
that america is a push over?
Scott O says:
I dunno
Scott O says:
tough problem
Zane B says:
you know, i really hate that fucking arguement
Zane B says:
that it’s “amnesty”
Zane B says:
these are fucking human beings
Zane B says:
and just because there’s a law, doesnt make the law just
Zane B says:
or that they dont deserve a better life
Zane B says:
if you were living in mexico
Zane B says:
living in poverty
Zane B says:
with no chance for your kids to advance in life
Zane B says:
who would give a fuck about the immigration laws of the country next to you
Zane B says:
human rights trump protectionism IMO
Zane B says:
besides
Zane B says:
i dont see hordes of middle class white kids lining up to do field work
Zane B says:
or work in a chicken rendering plant
Zane B says:
i dissagree with almost everything that goerge bush says or does, but immigration reform is one that i can find some common ground with him on
Zane B says:
the ppl that are against this stuff are always isolated idealists that live inland and have never spent time in a border state
Zane B says:
you want to curb illegal immigration? how bout making it easier to accomplish legally
Zane B says:
instead of forcing ppl to try and walk thru the AZ desert in the middle of summer at 120 degrees
Zane B says:
you have these ppl on the border screaming for fences and patrols to protect there homes from being looted by aliens passing thru in the middle of the night, looking for water
Scott O says:
well why is it that mexico is trying to filter and purge out their “unwanteds” then?
Zane B says:
well, how about alleviating the number of ppl trying to cross illegally by making it possible to do it legally
Zane B says:
where did you hear that BS?
Scott O says:
saying you have to be of so and so class, non criminal history and it seems harder to obtain citizenship ther?
Zane B says:
mexico isn’t the fucking cuba from the 70’s
Scott O says:
I think I saw that like a few years ago in some argument
Zane B says:
this isnt castro dumping all his criminals in miami
Scott O says:
lol
Scott O says:
but if we wanted to go there I read it was though as well
Scott O says:
to become “mexican”
Scott O says:
Well why is there a long and lengthy process on immigration anyway?
Scott O says:
what woudl happen if we just opened up borders?
Scott O says:
and say “come on in everybody”
Zane B says:
we’d be flooded probably
Scott O says:
lol can you immagine the mess?
Zane B says:
still
Scott O says:
and then the increased risk of increasing poverty?
Scott O says:
as everybody fights for jobs
Zane B says:
hah
Zane B says:
well, i tell you what
Zane B says:
the issues of poverty in mexico have nothing to do with america
Zane B says:
it has to do with mexico and it’s caste system, designed to keep ppl poor
Scott O says:
but america isn’t so great in other areas as well
Zane B says:
it’s basically what’s happening in the US now, with the dissappearing middle class
Scott O says:
as it get’s more corporate
Scott O says:
yeah there’s that threshold now… either you make it or you don’t
Zane B says:
arg, dont get me started
Scott O says:
lol
Zane B says:
this will prolly make the blog
i’m not saying the bill was perfect here. i’m not even saying it was good. in fact, i’m not saying it should have passed at all, but if there’s one thing that drives me up the, it’s lumping illegal aliens or undocumented workers (whichever side you prefer) in with real criminals and whitehouse aides and cabinet members. escaping poverty is just as legitimate as seeking asylum from an oppressive regime or fleeing a war zone. all three are life threatening and congress, the president, and the american people need to understand that. there are better ways to handle immigration than we do today.
for now i’ll hold off on the roberts supreme court and there so called “strict constructionist” interpretation of the first amendment. so much for respect for precident. what a bunch of self-deluding hypocrits. bring back sandra day!


